Financial Market Manipulation for An Obama Win?

Things that make you go hmmmmm. Check out Pastor Manning below, then check out my friend Matt's Blog Talk Radio Show, My Two Cents at 11pm.  Tonight should be a great one. --SUGAR

Comments

[prettystar08]

this man is a wack-job.

and the fact that you believe him or put any real thought into what this comedian say means u are too.

kthanxbye

[Marcy]

pettystar, whether Rev. Manning is a wack job is arguable, but all the crazy preachers with whom Obama has surrounded himself are definitely that and are much less entertaining than Manning. One thing is certain, Obama (a man who did not hesitate to lie that Bill and Hillary Clinton are racist) would do absolutely anything to gain the Presidency. So, while I don't know if he and the people controlling him did do it, I know they would have if they could have.

Sugar, why didn't you post the one in which the Rev. explains the Tarzan reference? That sounds intriguing.

[Thomas]

Cool...

[kat in your hat]

Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

[Thomas]

closer to home; a video re-enactment of Obama/Rezko and HUD homes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfcgwxPH7Rc

[InsightAnalytical-GRL]

More video, this time re: Odinga...

Texas Darlin’ posted a new video of Odinga and Obama in Kenya…

Citing her post, I wrote one with a bit of context/discussion…

New Video of Obama’s Trip to Kenya; Obama Appearing with Odinga

http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/new-video-of-obamas-trip-to-kenya-appearing-with-odinga/

A post I did back in April discussed a “photo-shopped” picture of Obama with Odinga. Check out the minutes of the video where I believe the photo originated.
In my April post, I had a long quote from a comment on the PBS blog which was in response to a Frontline show…the commentor said that photos, etc. had been photo-shopped (used the word “clever” to describe) to show Obama and Odinga together …well, the photo that I had put up definitely comes from the video…

[Joe]

I love Reverend Manning. His references to Obama as that long-legged mack daddy are a hoot!

[dum de dum dum]

The Kenyan Government made a formal COMPLAINT to the U.S. government about
Obama
meddling in their internal affairs.

So there!

[W]

Bill Clinton said that he thinks the current problems are a combination of the Democrats (and ACORN) manipulating Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make loans to people who were unqualified to repay them (including those without jobs). Clinton said (correctly) that he tried to stop that when he was President, but the Democrats blocked him.

It was that behavior on the part of the Democrats that directly caused the mortgage crisis. But the newsmedia never mentions this. Only Bill Clinton mentioned it. Why in fuck isn't McCain mentioning it? I'd like to see McCain take the gloves off. He has nothing to lose at this point.

Clinton also said that the Republicans are to blame to some extent for the stock market problems due to Bush deregulating it. Maybe so.

However, the mortgage crisis is the biggest root cause. I used to think that the Democrats and far left socialist groups like ACORN did that in a naive effort to help the poor and socialize the nations. Well, I still think that's true, but I now realize it goes beyond that. The Democrats and ACORN intentionally pressuring Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack to make home loans to clearly unqualified people, including even the unemployed, is a double win for the Democrats.

First, the Dems get to help the poor buy homes they canot afford, and then when they don't pay back those loans, the taxpayers pick up the tab, thus further socializing the USA, and if the Dems are lucky enough for the economy to tank over it, the poor economy helps the Democrats gain voters, and the Dems all the while blame Bush and Republicans.

[W]

The problem with a democracy is that smart people are a minority. The majority are just average intelligence peopole, the C students. Which leaves democracy open to flowery promsises and media manipulation since the average person lacks the brains to see past the veil of propaganda to look at facts.

[W]

Is Reverend Manning a wack job as someone posted?

I don't know since I don't know him. He does seem rather agitated, but perhaps for good reason.

Let's look at the facts as I know them.

Have Obama's people somehow manipulated the stock market to crash?

Well, no, not in any direct way that I can see.

However, Obamas supporters dam sure did manipulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to crash, and Bill Clinton as much as said so when he said that the far left Democrats were pressuring FM and FM to make loans to unqualified people who couldn't possibly repay them. Who is the far left Democrats that Clinton referred to? Obama's core supporters, including ACORN.

So while I see no evidence that Obama's supporters have manipulated the stock market in any direct manner, they did directly manipulate FM and FM to disasterous effects that triggered a stock market crash that has gained the Democrats support, and added a huge bailout cost to the American tax payer, thus further socializing this nation. Also, giving away homes for free to those who cannot repay also further socialized this nation.

So is Manning a nutjob? No, he isn't. I admit he is highly stressed and worked up, but really we all should be given the situation.

Manning lacks an economic understanding of exactly how the far left Democrats/Socialists manipulated things to crash the mortgage market, which in turn contributed to crashing the stock market.

However, just because Manning doesn't understand how Obama's people did it, doesn't make Manning wrong. Actually, he is correct in his suspicions, even though he clearly doesn't understand the details of how they did it.

An investigation is needed of ACORN, and all the Democrats who pressured FM and FM to make loans that were clearly unsound loans to unqualified, and even unemployed home buyers. So yes, Manning is correct that an investigation is needed. However, it's not the stock market directly that needs investigating. It's the mortgage market and mortgage scandal that needs investigating. However, since that precipitated the stock market crash, Manning is indeed onto something, even if he lacks the nuts and bolts understanding of how it was done by the Dems.

[Dawnelle]

GurrrrrrrLLL you are in my head!

I just LEFT THAT MANNING video and came here (as well as NoQtr)

James David is wearing his tin foil hat eh?

Maybe not who knows! I love watching him. Well 90 percent of the time.

Loved you and Patsy's show too! Keep it up! Its a blast listening and chatting on the board at the same time. Now that I've got the hang of it.

Peace/Hugs 2ya!

[ITSAGIRL!]

To prettystar08asshole, Don't disrespect Rev. Manning, He knows what he's talking about, ASSHOLE Pelosi set this up, this is the only way they can win, That WITCH would rather see the country go to hell then see her Candidate lose the election, I think the Botox has seeped into her fucken brain.

[briarhopper]

Many people tell me that the market is getting more unstable due to fears of Obama getting elected! This makes sense if folks are worried that he has Marxist leanings or if they are uncertain of his abilities to handle the job in the middle of a financial crisis.

[W]

Well, Obama certainly does have Marxist leanings and Marxist friends (Ayers and Obama's cousin, the wannabe dictator in Kenya are Marxists and terrorists). For that matter, his cousin is a Marxist, radical Islam, terrorist and inciter of race and hate crimes in his nation.

In additon to all that, Obama is unqualified.

But in getting back to the financial crisis. I did NOT say or mean that Obama's core supporters crashed the mortgage market, and thus indirectly the stock market, by mere recent actions alone. According to Bill Clinton's interview on whatever that show is called (Sugar showed the interview here a while ago), Clinton said that the far left Democrats (read Obama's people) had been pressuring and subverting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack since the days when Clinton was President, and they continued doing that all the years Bush Jr has been President too. Clinton even said he tried to stop it, but the Dems blocked his efforts. I wonder if they block Bush too, or if they pulled that stuff without Bush realizing it (he has been distracted by terrorists and wars and might not have noticed the stuff leading up to FM and FM crash). However, what if Bush had tried to block the far left from coercing FM and FM to make bad loans to poor folks? The Dems would have accused the Reps of hating on poor folks. Really, only Clinton had a good chance to stop that BS, and he couldn't even stop it at the time as a Dem President. However, Clinton was willing to say "I told you so" to the far left Dems (Obamas people) in that interview.

I think it's pretty clearcut that the Dems are responsible for the mortgage crash based on what Clinton said, and that the Dems had to work at crashing it for 4 years of Clinton's Presidency plus another 8 years of Bush Jr's Presidency.

So the far left Dems worked Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac over for 12 years before the mortgage crisis and resulting stock market crash.

Yet Obama's people have the balls to blame the crisis on Bush and the Republicans, and what Bill Clinton was saying/doing, was pointing the finger (in a polite way since he's a gentleman) back at Obama's far left supporters and saying they caused the mortgage crisis.

Since the Clinton interview, it's come to light that ACORN was heavily involved in causing the mortgage crisis, and those socialist wackjobs are part of Obama's fanatical supporters. Also, many far left elected officials who now back Obama were the same far left congress and senate people who caused this shit.

So the Democrats conclusively did cause the mortgage crisis that is a major cause of the stock market to crash. The far right Republicans might have inadvertantly contributed to the stock market crash by earlier deregulation, but I don't think it is conclusively proven how much that contributed to the stock market crash, if at all. It is very conclusive that the Democrats caused the mortgage crisis and that it is a major contributing factor to the stock market crash.

However, the Obama supporters blame it all on Bush since the Democrat mortgage chickens came home to roost during Bush's watch.

[W]

Briarhopper said, "Many people tell me that the market is getting more unstable due to fears of Obama getting elected!"

Well, I'm an investor, and I wouldn't invest in the stock market. In fact, I'm working at figuring out how to get my money completely out of banks and CDs into real estate and gold. Why? Because gold is immune to inflation. Real estate investments are typically HELPED by inflation.

I expect massive inflation due to the bailout. Think about it. Where is the government going to get 700 billion dollars? They're going to print more dollars! So anyone with money in CDs or savings accounts will be ruined, as many already were ruined in stocks. Also, stocks are still over valued. I expect another stock market crash. But gold is immune to inflation and real estate investors benefit from it.

So my money will be kept out of the banking system and out of CDs and in real estate and gold. Then the upcoming massive inflation will help me instead of hurt me. i.e. - it's a fucked up system, so make it work for you so it doesn't work against you.

All the above is REGARDLESS of who is elected. I expect massive inflation regardless of who is elected. If Obama is elected, things will be even worse, but even if McCain is elected, life will still NOT be a bed of roses for Americans who don't understand these things.

FYI - as I've said before, most Americans aren't very smart, which is why most of them are not wealthy, and most of them will be getting a lot poorer in the coming years no matter who is elected, though Obama would be worse. The only party that really makes sense to me is the Constitutional Party, who are more or less what the Republicans used to be, like say back in Reagan's day, or earlier. However, I'll vote for McCain because he's preferable to Obama, and the Constitutional Party has no chance to get a president elected.

I think additional financial crisis is inevitable for the nations and individual Americans, no matter who is elected, though it'd be worst if Obama elected. However, those smart Americans who understand economics and invest as I suggested can be made wealthy instead of ruined by the upcoming troubles. So there's a free tip. Be a winner, not a loser. The difference will be in your financial planning and understanding how inflation ruins some investments, and savings accounts, and CDs, but helps certain other investments like real estate and gold (to name a few).

Life would not be a bed of roses under McCain, but it would be far worse under Obama.

I think the bailout might help short-term, but in the mid to long term it will make things worse due to causing hyperinflation when the government starts printing extra paper money to pay for the war, bailout, and if Obama elected, all the extra shit he wants to spend money on too.